Comments on: Binding the Deterministic Hands of God http://www.imperishableinheritance.com/2005/binding-the-deterministic-hands-of-god/ Mon, 22 Feb 2010 03:00:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Chris http://www.imperishableinheritance.com/2005/binding-the-deterministic-hands-of-god/comment-page-1/#comment-455 Chris Thu, 18 Aug 2005 22:31:31 +0000 http://www.siolon.com/lama/?p=150#comment-455 John, yes before the foundation of the world in all the logical order of decree systems. What I'm speaking of is the logical order: that is are we simply known or are we seen as fallen; and the modified supra would engage the predestining work to only salvation and not the reprobation. You made a good point that I should stay away from language of "suprise" for God. I was simply caricaturing the infra position. John, yes before the foundation of the world in all the logical order of decree systems. What I’m speaking of is the logical order: that is are we simply known or are we seen as fallen; and the modified supra would engage the predestining work to only salvation and not the reprobation.

You made a good point that I should stay away from language of “suprise” for God. I was simply caricaturing the infra position.

]]> By: John McClure http://www.imperishableinheritance.com/2005/binding-the-deterministic-hands-of-god/comment-page-1/#comment-454 John McClure Thu, 18 Aug 2005 22:26:07 +0000 http://www.siolon.com/lama/?p=150#comment-454 I think the order in infralapsarianism was still yet all decreed before the foundation of the world so it wouldnt surprise God because he decreed it beforehand. Anonymous, Isaiah 55:8-9 is speaking to the unrightous and wicked. I would hope our ways are His ways. We have the mind of Christ. I think the order in infralapsarianism was still yet all decreed before the foundation of the world so it wouldnt surprise God because he decreed it beforehand.

Anonymous,

Isaiah 55:8–9 is speaking to the unrightous and wicked. I would hope our ways are His ways. We have the mind of Christ.

]]> By: Chris http://www.imperishableinheritance.com/2005/binding-the-deterministic-hands-of-god/comment-page-1/#comment-453 Chris Thu, 18 Aug 2005 14:45:43 +0000 http://www.siolon.com/lama/?p=150#comment-453 Well "Anonymous" I must say that the whole point of my post was defending a position of "high" election amongst other systematic theology. There are things we don't and can't know (one thing that jumps out at me is infant salvation), but my position in the post is supported. If you have something of pertinance to contribute I'd love to hear it. Also in Isaiah... <blockquote>"Come now, and let us reason together," Says the LORD, "Though your sins are as scarlet, They will be as white as snow; Though they are red like crimson, They will be like wool. <strong>Isaiah 1:18</strong></blockquote> Well “Anonymous” I must say that the whole point of my post was defending a position of “high” election amongst other systematic theology. There are things we don’t and can’t know (one thing that jumps out at me is infant salvation), but my position in the post is supported.

If you have something of pertinance to contribute I’d love to hear it. Also in Isaiah…

“Come now, and let us reason together,” Says the LORD, “Though your sins are as scarlet, They will be as white as snow; Though they are red like crimson, They will be like wool.
Isaiah 1:18

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.imperishableinheritance.com/2005/binding-the-deterministic-hands-of-god/comment-page-1/#comment-452 Anonymous Thu, 18 Aug 2005 13:30:33 +0000 http://www.siolon.com/lama/?p=150#comment-452 In the end...who knows how exactly it all "works out"...obviously it does work out, as God's Word shows, but the exact _how_ of that is a mystery to our human minds. "Who has understood the mind of the Lord, or instructed him as his counselor?" (Is. 40:13) "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways," declares the Lord. "As the heavens are highter than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts." (Is. 55:8-9) In the end…who knows how exactly it all “works out”…obviously it does work out, as God’s Word shows, but the exact _how_ of that is a mystery to our human minds.

“Who has understood the mind of the Lord, or instructed him as his counselor?” (Is. 40:13)

“For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,” declares the Lord. “As the heavens are highter than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.” (Is. 55:8–9)

]]> By: Chris http://www.imperishableinheritance.com/2005/binding-the-deterministic-hands-of-god/comment-page-1/#comment-451 Chris Thu, 18 Aug 2005 02:01:27 +0000 http://www.siolon.com/lama/?p=150#comment-451 *<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/registry.html/102-0890251-2810561?%5Fencoding=UTF8&id=1PM1TQNXHGL64" rel="nofollow">Added to list</a>* *Added to list*

]]> By: Simon http://www.imperishableinheritance.com/2005/binding-the-deterministic-hands-of-god/comment-page-1/#comment-450 Simon Wed, 17 Aug 2005 19:02:25 +0000 http://www.siolon.com/lama/?p=150#comment-450 Have you read part IV of Molina's <i>Concordia</i>, translated into English by Freddoso? Have you read part IV of Molina’s Concordia, translated into English by Freddoso?

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