The Growing In Grace Cult
Just when I thought I'd seen it all, I am astounded once again. I got an e-mail the other from a friend of mine with a link to the website of Dr. Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda who the leader of Creciendo en Gracia or Growing In Grace ministry. I am, to say the least, absolutely appalled at this teaching; so I'm am riled to defend our Lord against this heretic. Let's first review some of his claims, and then I'll turn to a swift apologetic destroying his ministry.
The "Conversion Experience" of Miranda
Every cult leader has an experience where they are "told by Jesus" (Joseph Smith, Muhammad, etc.) that they are His chosen instrument to "save the church" from apostasy. Well, Miranda's story is interesting, because he doesn't just believe Christ talked to him but that he became Christ. Here is an excerpt of his testimony:
"De Jesus's gospel flows from an experience he had in December 1976...Then one frosty December night, he says he awoke to find himself flanked by two brawny men with stern expressions who told him: 'The King of Kings is coming to anoint you.' Before he knew it, he was standing in a luminous marble corridor where trumpets blared and a spectral figure crept toward him. Then the apparition merged with him, and he began to hear a man's voice in his head...'He said, "Open your Bible,"' De Jesus recalls. 'So I opened to Romans 6. And he said, "Read that … that means you're dead to sin; sin can't reign in your life."' The experience left De Jesus transformed. "Ever since that day, I can't learn from anybody ' and I mean no one," he says. He now believes that was the night of Christ's second coming."
Wild huh? Now, let's look at more of this man's heretical teaching.
The Claims of Miranda
- He believes he is Christ Himself; the last manifestation of God on earth.
- He claims that Romans 16:25 confirms that he is God.
- He believes, not only that he doesn't sin, but that sin no longer exists.
- He claims that every religion: Catholics, Protestants, Jews, etc. all have the wrong religion (and he apparently has the right one).
- Only his followers are the "true race."
- He believes he has come to establish the "Government of God" on earth.
- Oh wait, he also claims that the devil doesn't exist; he is only a fabrication of other religions.
What Shall We Make of Miranda?
What is interesting is that in 1988 he announced that he was the reincarnated Paul, and changed in 1999 to "the Other" who paved the way for Christ's coming, but why stop there? He then decided to go all the way in 2004 to claiming to be Christ and the sole "intepreter of the gospel" (Source).
Let's evaluate the teachings he has given. It's interesting that he doesn't claim any extra written revelation outside of the Bible which will make this task all the more swift and easy. I shall evaluate his claims through the very Bible that he says, "If this is true, then I am the son of God."
Is Sin Gone?
I'll start the apologetic with a few of his points. By demonstrating that his claims are false Biblically, then his unique claim to deity will be undermined and disproved. First, the apostle John warns us in his first epistle that "If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us" (1 John 1:8), and he ends that very chapter with "If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us" (1 John 10). Interesting. It is also interesting that this man, instead of being sinless, is actually committing the very first sin: "For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil" (Gen 3:5).
Does Romans 16.25 Validate his Claims?
Now to Him who is able to establish you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery which has been kept secret for long ages past,
Romans 16:25
Does this passage confirm the teaching of Miranda? Well, if he says he's Jesus then of course he could; but it should be noted that I could say that I'm Jesus but that doesn't make it true. It's interesting in the next verse Paul says that the Gospel "has been made known to all the nations, leading to obedience of faith" (vs. 26). In other words, the Gospel has been made known, revealed, and verified by God Himself in Paul's day. Jesus came once to verify Himself and His mission, and when He comes back it will be the consummation of history.
Does the Devil Exist?
Is the devil really a fabrication of religious zealots, or is the devil a real person portrayed in the very Scriptures Miranda claims to fulfill? First off, it's interesting that Jesus Himself was tempted by the devil and rebuked him (Mat 4). Through the resurrection, an angel "laid hold of the dragon, the serpent of old, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years" (Rev 20:5), and after the final judgement Satan and his followers are to be "thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone" (Rev 20:10). Further, Paul claims that there really is a "prince of the power of the air" (Eph 2:2), and Peter tells us to "[b]e of sober spirit, be on the alert. Your adversary, the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour" (1 Pet 5:8). And I could go on with the Garden of Eden narrative, Job, and many other instances of this figure.
What About his "Government of God?"
He claims that he came to build the official government of God. He claims the following:
"We're the government of God on Earth," explains De Jesus. "We will spread all over and rule the world. We will control the church, the economy, society, education, politics, technology. There will be no war, no corruption. I mean, if a lie can change the world, why can't the truth do it?"
It's interesting that Jesus Himself rebuked His followers and others for their misconception that He was to set up a political kingdom (Acts 1:6-8). Jesus told us that "My kingdom is not of this world" (Joh 18:36). The next time we will see a theocratic nation is when Jesus truly comes back to consummate time.
What About his Apologetic?
Miranda actually on the front page of his website provides the following apologetic to the question: "Could Dr Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda be another False Christ?"
"Notice how this verse [Mat 24:24; Mar 13:32] states that the false Christs will come performing what? signs and wonders, The Apostle Jose Luis De Jesus Miranda has not appeared to perform signs and wonders, He has arisen to reveal specific information of the authentic gospel...We hope that the eyes of your understanding will be enlightened to discover that the Lord Jesus Christ has returned."
John Gill comments that the signs and wonders "make an appearance of doing them, though they really did them not." Jesus is saying that some claiming to be messiah ("Christs") will perform signs and wonders, but not all have to by this verse. Further, Jesus is not addressing those claiming to be Jesus Himself just as a messiah.
Is he Jesus?
In this we have to only turn to the teaching of the New Testament when Jesus will return. Jesus tells us that His return will not happen until "This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come" (Mat 24:14). Considering that half of the world still has no access to the Gospel, I highly doubt that this has been fulfilled. Paul also describes a mass conversion of ethnic Jews before the return of Christ (Rom 11:25-26).
One of his followers, in an interview, claims that Jesus will return the same way He came the first time (i.e. through a mother). This is interesting, because Miranda doesn't claim a virgin birth; and he claims his "becoming Christ" occurred later in life. In other words, his supposed birth is not the same as Christ's. Christ described His own return by saying that "lightning comes from the east and flashes even to the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be" (Mat 24:27), and Paul describes Christ's return as "the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first" (1 Thess 4:16) which corresponds to his teaching of a bodily resurrection at Christ's return in 1 Cor 15. Further, Jesus' own departure from earth was bodily (Acts 1:9); and that is the way that we will see Christ for all eternity starting at His return. Lastly, we know that Jesus' return will be followed by a final judgment followed by the eternal state as described in Rev 20.
Conclusion
The teachings of this man are un-Biblical, heretical, dangerous, and false. Christians need to pray for his repentance as well as his followers. He is dangerous, and he is praying on the money of innocent people to build his empire and his supposed "government." Let God on high grant him repentance or strike him dead.
Sep 7th 2006
Pastor Paul made the point once that we, at serious and rare times, should pray that God would either save some people or get them out of the way (stike them dead). I would like to see him repent but being stuck dead is a viable option too.
Sep 7th 2006
Thanks for that Perry. I actually just erased that "strike him dead" part for fear of being to harsh, but with your comment I added it back in. This is especially true in light of the Imprecatory Psalms.
Sep 11th 2006
Wow. I'm amazed that people actually follow this guy. Well, maybe I shouldn't be amazed. There are a lot of nutty people in this world...or people who are ill informed and easily swayed. I'm going to have to look at his site!
Sep 11th 2006
Thanks for this post - it's a great summary and walkthrough of Miranda's claims. Keep watchin' that life and doctrine, friend.
Sep 11th 2006
I think you forgot one thing...Jesus is supposed to rapture the church at his literal second coming. It the Bible it states that he will come in the clouds, but never says that he was be in "man-like" or even ON THE EARTH until the church is raptured. AND his real name is GOD!
Sep 12th 2006
I wonder the Lord Jeus had come only in the USA ! not for the whole world ? !
Sep 26th 2006
Great writing. I've been reading on this fellow for quite some time now, living in Miami, I recall hearing him and his “apostle†preach in a local radio station, and needless to say, it was both sad and comical. It just shows us how easily uninstructed followers will slip into, and even give their lives for utter nonsense. I have seen his followers state the “he will not die†and without flutter, say that they would give up everything they hold dear for him in a heartbeat. The bible speaks SO clearly on false teachers, and if they would just study the scriptures like the Bereans did, this charlatan would probably be flipping burgers. Their whole theology is rooted on Hebrews 6, …
“Therefore leaving the elementary teaching about the Christ, let us press on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, of instruction about washings and laying on of hands, and the resurrection of the dead and eternal judgment. And this we will do, if God permits.
They take these verses out of context and say that it proves that everything that churches do are dead works, they state that the foundation of repentance and eternal judgment are un-necessary. WOW! If we read the pretext we can clearly see that the apostle was making the statement that they needed to leave the elementary teachings and to on to solid food. It is so important to correctly teach the word, the results of not doing so are seen in this sad cult that is literately sending people into damnation.
Oct 5th 2006
I interviewd this guys spokeseperson on 10/04/2006. His name was Bishop Carlos Cestero. You listen to it in our podcast archive at Unchained Radio
Oct 11th 2006
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Question: In Jesus of Nazareth's time, did people believe he was God or did they call him a blasfemous liar and crucified him?
Perhaps just once the world can finally sit down and analize everything he says, not just watch to a 5 minute news broadcast who focuses on the negative fabricated facts to lure the viewers and call him a liar.
That's clearly a sign of the lack of faith the bible says HE would find the second time he came...
Oct 11th 2006
J.C.,
I have done more than just watch that newcast as you can see by the depth of this apologetic.
Actually, the Bible states that when He comes back there will be a final judgement and then the New Heavens/New Earth (Rev 20-22). Where's the judgment? Jesus is not a Puerto Rican man who preys on the innocent leading astray many. If anything, your leader has the signs of the man of sin.
Oct 12th 2006
I just learned of this movement today and started doing research. It makes me glad that I've gorwn to a point where seeing and hearing things like this no longer disturb me. In actuality Jesus prophesied that there would be many false Christs that would come in the world, Miranda is just another example (Matthew 24:4). Jesus also says that many would be deceived, and we see that being played out here as well. The truth is we are living in the last days and according to Biblical foretellings, we can expect to see more of this. We can also rest assured that when Christ does in fact return, he will be coming to rapture the Church, and no one in all the earth will be able to miss the sign of his coming.(Matthew 24:26-32)3
Oct 16th 2006
This sect is really promoting themselves in Miami, I just set up a site (creciendoendesgracia.com) that will be for the sole purpose of bring to light the CLEAR and OBIVIOUS heretical teachings of this man and his "bishop of bishops". The English translation for my sites name is "growing in disgrace" if anyone wishes to contribute anything, please shoot me an e-amil. Also with this sites owner’s permission, I would like to add a link to this page.
Oct 16th 2006
Hum....
That's true. The bible does say that in Matthew and there have been many people claiming to be God, but the thing is none of these self-proclaimed messiahs have come preaching the gospel of Paul, which the bible states would be the one God would return preaching.
Dr. Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda says what he says becuase he has biblical evidence of everything that comes out of his mouth. He has even said in his teachings, which he posts on his website, if I EVER say anything that is not within the letters of Paul I encourage you to call me a liar. But, not once, in the many years he has been preaching has he stepped away from those boundries...
Now, I have a question, what did Jesus die in the cross for? What did that sacrifice achieve?
Oct 29th 2006
This guy would have been in prison in my country if he had formed such a cult. I'm from Zimbabwe which happens to be a deeply Christian country. This is pure heracy but sadly it's not against the law here in the US.
Incidently does anyone remember Jim Jones, he was the cult leader who believed he was the incarnation of Jesus and God. He later went on to establish a so called 'Paradise' in Guyana where his followers were forced to work in Guyana. He eventually went on to convince more than 900 of his followers to commit suicide. I won't be surprised if De Jesus convinces his very gullible follwers to do the same.
Nov 21st 2006
Maybe this guy (Jose Luis De Jesus Miranda) is calling himself Jesus because he is the antichrist who will come first. But....what happened to the rapture? I'm getting scared for this world. Everyone will be losing their souls because they don't really read into the Bible and God's Word. They would rather beleive in someone else because they can see them, it's easier for them. May God protect us all.
Jan 1st 2007
Why do you think God allows this folly? As far as I am concerned he is either working supreme glorification for himself in this man's repentance or damnation. I am appalled that someone would talk like this and then I am not. Human beings are stupid. They hate God and love sin. This man, unfortunatly has choosen the wrong God to mock since my God lives in Heaven and does what he pleases.
Jan 8th 2007
Dear J.C.
Miranda contradicts himself on a regular basis. Just the other day, I was watching a video of him and the exact words that came out of his mouth was that when preachers pray for someone and the person falls back, that is power of God, but it is power that makes you confused. When was the last time time that God confused anyone???
As far as him being called a liar, the difference between Miranda and the REAL Jesuschrist is that Jesus never got anything out of the people that he helped, while Miranda makes millions of dollars a month, not to mention all the ridiculous gifts his ridiculous followers give him.
Jesuschrist died in the Cross to give us salvation. Before Jesus, God only had a pact with with the Jewish people. Jesus died to give EVERYONE a chance at salvation. When he died, the devil no longer had power over man. And if the devil or sin doesn't exist, the what is the purpose of Miranda?
If we are all PERFECT and WITHOUT sin, then why we need Miranda to tell us the real truth? Shouldn't we just walk around doing as we please until we die or God comes gets us???
Miranda is a liar and unfortunately there is no hope of salvation for him. In the video I watched he clearly made a mockery of and blasphemed God and his Holy Spirit which is the only unforgivevable sin. My only hope is to keep praying that some day soon, Miranda will be gone from this world and hopefully his followers will see the light and realized that they were just fooled by some selfish jerk who let himself be fooled by the devil.
Jan 19th 2007
So many uneducated and gullible people in this world. They have fallen for this... Truly must be demonic. Won't his followers feel so ashamed when he gets hit by a car or dies of an aneurism?... The devil is hard at work destroying lives. We must educate, evangelize, testify so more are not fooled, God Bless.
Jan 28th 2007
What is amazing to me is that seemingly normal looking people give this man money so he can wear Rolex watches, live like a millionaire and blatantly abuse power in an exact contradiction to the life and teachings of the man who, coincidentally, he proclaims to BE. That he seems to be more of a student of Adolph Hitler's tactics than the Bible is clear; ie: shut up the opposition (break up their meetings), create a mythology, etc.
I pity the people who follow him, as well as thier families, because they truly are hurting so many others who love them. Incredible gullibility notwithstanding, those people (like JC) need help. I wonder if "the Christ" has paid any taxes on that money he's received? Hmm...
Jan 30th 2007
J.C.
Please read Revelations. Since Mr. Miranda is not taking into account everything that this book says would happen before the coming of our true LORD comes.
Jan 31st 2007
I never thought that this time period would come in my lifetime. As soon as I read the msnbc.com newspage, I prayed hard for God's protection for me and my family, and I prayed that God would keep my eyes open to Him and only Him. God bless every believer, and for you Un-believers, may our sweet Lord open your eyes before it's too late!
Feb 13th 2007
I hope that we who have real honest belief in Jesus pray for this man!
He is a lost man..
He is only out to make financial profits without really doing real labor!
Think about this: Would Jesus take all kinds of money from his followers and make a kingdom on earth????
NO!
This moron claims he is greater then Jesus!
Hahahahahahaha!!!!
When he is on his death bed, he will be surely repenting for what he is doing!
Hopefully God hears his cries!!
Feb 20th 2007
God is in control, even now. Does this verse apply to De Jesus?
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who insult you and persecute you.
Feb 24th 2007
He just claimed to be the anti-christ and is having followers get the tattoo 666 on their body.
That is pretty scary.
Feb 25th 2007
And everybody thought the church would be gone before we would see such things!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mar 1st 2007
SATAN IS STILL DECIEVING PEOPLE TODAY. THIS IS SO SAD, YET MANY WILL FOLLOW HIM TO BE LOST IN AN ETERNAL HELL.
The truth is, Satan is deceived, even as the billions who follow him. He actually believes that he will win in this conflict. It is the most profound case of “unbelief †in the history of man, which has dragged down untold millions, even billions.
(ISA. 14:12) “HOW ARE YOU FALLEN FROM HEAVEN, O LUCIFER, SON OF THE MORNING! HOW ARE YOU CUT DOWN TO THE GROUND, WHICH DID WEAKEN THE NATIONS!â€
“Lucifer†is the name of Satan. He is an Angel, originally created by God, who, for an undetermined period of time, served God in Righteousness and Holiness. Therefore, all the pain, suffering, misery, heartache, death, and deception that have ruled the nations from the very beginning until now have been caused by Satan. When Jesus comes back, Satan’s day will be over.This created being which the Bible refers to as “Lucifer†and then “Satan†is real. He heads up this revolution against God, which has now lasted for many, thousands of years. it began long before Adam and Eve were created. Satan, then called “Lucifer,†attempted to overthrow the Will of God. Such has been man’s disposition ever since he made Satan his lord.Religious man is not satisfied with God’s Will; he, therefore, attempts to usurp authority over God in the name of religion and often times in the name of God.
There is a sin debt that hangs over the universe — a debt caused by Satan and all who follow him. Everyone who knows the Bible knows that it was paid at the Cross of Calvary. When Jesus died on the Cross, He not only addressed the terrible Fall of man,He also addressed Lucifer’s revolution against God. how far-reaching the Cross was, and is. As far-reaching as were the results of the Fall, both of Lucifer and man. “Where sin abounded, Grace did much more abound: that as sin has reigned unto death, even so might Grace reign through Righteousness unto Eternal Life by Jesus Christ our Lord†(Rom. 5:20-21). At Calvary’s Cross, Jesus atoned for all sin, past, present, and future, again, for all who will believe (Jn. 3:16; Col. 2:14-15).
Mar 1st 2007
The truth is, Satan is deceived, even as the billions who follow him. He actually believes that he will win in this conflict. It is the most profound case of “unbelief †in the history of man, which has dragged down untold millions, even billions.
(ISA. 14:12) “HOW ARE YOU FALLEN FROM HEAVEN, O LUCIFER, SON OF THE MORNING! HOW ARE YOU CUT DOWN TO THE GROUND, WHICH DID WEAKEN THE NATIONS!â€
“Lucifer†is the name of Satan. He is an Angel, originally created by God, who, for an undetermined period of time, served God in Righteousness and Holiness. Therefore, all the pain, suffering, misery, heartache, death, and deception that have ruled the nations from the very beginning until now have been caused by Satan. When Jesus comes back, Satan’s day will be over.This created being which the Bible refers to as “Lucifer†and then “Satan†is real. He heads up this revolution against God, which has now lasted for many, thousands of years. it began long before Adam and Eve were created. However, Satan’s days are numbered. “Lucifer,†attempted to overthrow the Will of God. Such has been man’s disposition ever since he made Satan his lord.Religious man is not satisfied with God’s Will; he, therefore, attempts to usurp authority over God in the name of religion and often times in the name of God. Satan had reason to believe, and still does believe, that he can actually overthrow God and gain creation. he thinks he can overcome God. Even unto this hour,Satan knows that God will work within a prescribed set of rules, rules which God Himself has laid down.every single thing must be addressed from the position of Righteousness. Satan does not hold to Righteousness; he resorts to any and all deceitful means. Further, Satan knows that God will have no part of anything deceitful. He knows that if God desired to do so, He has the power to simply speak the Word and Satan and all his fallen angels would simply be no more; however, he knows that the Lord will not do that, because the evil committed against God must be addressed in the right way. It is somewhat similar to the nations of the world, at least those who hold to a semblance of law, which cannot dismiss wrongdoing The wrong doing must be addressed and paid for in some way. There is a sin debt that hangs over the universe — a debt caused by Satan and all who follow him. Everyone who knows the Bible knows that it was paid at the Cross of Calvary. When Jesus died on the Cross, He not only addressed the terrible Fall of man,He also addressed Lucifer’s revolution against God. how far-reaching the Cross was, and is. As far-reaching as were the results of the Fall, both of Lucifer and man. “Where sin abounded, Grace did much more abound: that as sin has reigned unto death, even so might Grace reign through Righteousness unto Eternal Life by Jesus Christ our Lord†(Rom. 5:20-21). At Calvary’s Cross, Jesus atoned for all sin, past, present, and future, again, for all who will believe (Jn. 3:16; Col. 2:14-15).
no person has ever been saved except by the means of what Christ did at the Cross. However, it doesn’t stop there. Once the person is saved, even Baptized with the Holy Spirit, still, his faith, without question or reservation, must always rest in Christ and the Cross. The Cross of Christ must ever be the Object of the Believer’s faith. (Taken from Jimmy Swaggart Bible Commentary, Isaiah, Chapter 14.)
Mar 2nd 2007
Thanks for the blog entry Chris, I'm always interested in (and astounded by) people who claim to be God and the cults they leave.
Here's another, a cult led by a Korean guy wanted for rape by Interpol:
http://www.jmscult.com
http://www.jungmyungseok.com
Keep up the good work,
Mar 3rd 2007
The bible warns of false christs that will arise and deceive many. What I don't understand though is why does he have so many followers? All you have to do is open the bible and read it!!! It's not like these people don't know how to think for themselves, many are prosperous, intelligent people!!! I will keep them all in my prayers and hope that they will see the truth as it is REALLY stated in God's word.
Mar 7th 2007
This kind of heretical practice reminds us that we are to be rooted deeply in the Word of God and have a clear understanding of the scriptures or else we can be led astray by people like Miranda. My prayer is that God will convict this man of his gross sin and that he will repent and turn to the Living Christ of the Bible before he ends up in a lost eternity taking many deceived followers with him.
Mar 7th 2007
Brothers and Sisters
First, I wish to thank you all for not leaning on you own understanding. We are presented with an message contrary to everything that Christ represents and we turn to the only One with the answers we need. It is not difficult to present scripture that refutes this man.
Hebrews 13:8
"Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever."
1 Timothy 6:3
"If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching, he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain."
Luke 21:8/Mark 13:5
"He replied:'Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, "I am he,' and ,"The time is near.' Do not follow them."
Matthew 7:15
"Watch out for false prophets. They come in sheep's clothing, but inwardly the are ferocious wolves. By their fruits you will recognize them.
There is much more, but I think you get my point. This man is not to be followed. If the return of the Messiah means he changes his mind on everything he says then I would wager one of these men is a liar.
I have known my Lord only a short while but I have found Him completely trust worthy. He was the only Man alive with the right to say "I AM", but instead He said "you". The essence of God pours from His lips. He is the most selfless Man the world will ever know.
I do not know Mr. Miranda, but he offers a message of self gratification and indulgence. He gives a message without sin, which means he has turned his back on the Father he held so dear. All I have read in the Old Testament declares God holds justice close to his heart and Mr. Miranda gives you a life without consequences of sin because sin no longer exists, which kills justice. You no longer need to repent, one can sin his life away. And so Man suffered on the cross for me in vain. I will follow the Carpenter, thank you.
We must understand something very important though, Mr. Miranda is like this because the Lord has allowed it. We cannot forget that our war is not with the flesh but the spiritual forces which rule over them.(Eph 6:12) As followers of Christ we cannot hate Mr. Miranda, he has been blinded by the one he thinks is church folk-lore.
Also all those who worship him are in the same situation. Satan is the king of lies and can give a very convincing point, and any Christian without his armor is an easy target. I have heard normal churches speak false doctrines, so we cannot think that Mr. Miranda is the only blind man behind the pulpit.
But we have a responsibility to the blind. We need to show them the Christians main weapon and what we will be known by. Love. Each one of Mr. Miranda's followers is a mission field just waiting for the light of Christ, and we must shine it gently.(2 Tim 2:25) We cannot bring any anger to the soul negotiation table, lest we lose any of them. Pull on the line to hard and your fish will be lost.
When I hear of men like this I can only dream of how God will be glorified. So I beg you Brothers and Sisters, don't be afraid and don't be angry. Be ready. These people need a loving hand to pull the blindfold off. Yes, even Mr. Miranda. Him most of all, because he will wish he had a millstone compared to the justice of an angry God.
I appreciate your time and pray that God blesses your life.
Mar 7th 2007
@Alex: That was a good, thought-out response. Thanks!
Mar 9th 2007
False prophets have been revealed and exposed in the past. People who truely believe in Jesus and await his second coming shouldn't be afraid of these people claiming such lies, but instead hold fast in their faith and read their Bibles which are the main instructions that God gave us.
Mar 10th 2007
I actually know and work with two individuals who worship this man! They actually both went out and got 666 tattoos.
I just can't help but think that one would have to be really empty inside to follow these lies.
Mar 15th 2007
"The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he did not exist"
Mar 24th 2007
u will realise when jesus comes back ..i would like to remember your future ..
this is then begining of the second coming of christ.
Mar 24th 2007
man this guy is really going to pay one day ..
remember satan's power increases for just small time ..this is yr time have great fun ..yr end will come soon ..
i bind all yr evil desires in thy name jesus
Apr 11th 2007
Now this man claims to be the anitchrist. I think that is closer to the truth!
Pray for him sinners!
JG
1peter 3:8
Apr 18th 2007
In a word, this guy is full of s@#$ !
Apr 21st 2007
I bear whiteness that none is worthy of worship other than ALLAH alone. And i bear whiteness prophet Muhammad is Allah's last messenger
Apr 21st 2007
@BlessedWarrior: I appreciate your desire to give feedback although I must disagree with your truth claim. Jesus was the final prophet and revelation to God's people. Anyone who believes in his death, burial, and resurrection will receive freedom from sin and be with him forever.
Apr 21st 2007
Hm... seems to me this guy just went from being a junkie in prison to becoming a billionaire through ingenious thought. Heck, he's making money... suffice at the loss of his 'followers'. As far as him being a 'false prophet' I dont disagree... the guy's an amazing con who's selling a story to make people feel warm and fuzzy inside. More kudo's to him. Now the real question comes: Are you mad at him because he's making more worldly riches than you or do you have a true faith conviction against this man?
If its the second option then I recommend you pity and pray for this man. Enough said.
-Samek-
p.s. - Oh and as far as Blessed Warrior's belief's go... More power to you and Allah. Believe what you will and believe with full conviction and faith. Better than the majority of Christians who are luke warm fence sitters whom as Jesus said will 'spit out' for they are neither cold nor hot. :P
Apr 27th 2007
Living4Today,
You and I have the same feelings and thoughts concerning this. I'm glad I'm not alone in my view as religion being corrupt and a crutch as a whole for man to base his wrongdoings and low self discipline on. -Samek-
Apr 27th 2007
@Samek: Have you had a bad experience with religion?
Apr 28th 2007
Yes I have Chris. That and I'm not going to be a robot and follow something that isn't "real" to me. So far anything I've tried has just seemed well... fake. If its real to you then more power to you.
Apr 28th 2007
@Samek: I would challenge you to think about the nature of truth. Don't lay captive to the philosophy undergirding postmodernity; truth is not and was never meant to be a subjective claim.
May 7th 2007
Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda is wrong he is not GOD
Reason why...
# 1 Can he Part the SEA ???
# 2 Can he Walk on Water ???
# 3 He has body Guard HAHA HAHA ROFL HAHA HAHA
You think God needs Body Guards LOL HAHA Listen up people God can do whatever he wants when he wants understand he does not need anything... And u think he need to be protected by mortals like us we are weak GOD IS STRONG... This guy will not share in the Tree of life he has mis used the holy word of GOD for that god will remove If from the tree of Life and he has added words to it so god will add him to the pleuges in the bible... Why does this man Fear death for if he walks with god you will not fear death or evil so why have body guards hmm... NO faith or wrong faith