Nathan Pitchford’s Comments On Decisional Regeneration

Nathan Pitchford, in the comments of the last post, made what I believe to be the clarification that I was unable to achieve. I believe these comments are more poignant and clearer than my own. If you would like to contact Nathan please contact me, and I will give you his contact information.

First, I think it's vital to distinguish between the fact of praying 'the sinner's prayer,' and the appeal either to pray the sinner's prayer in order to secure salvation or to remember the precise time when one prayed the sinner's prayer in order to assure oneself of salvation. The statement, 'Pray this prayer, and you'll be saved,' may certainly be misleading; but given the context, the person thus admonished may possibly understand the expression to mean, 'Express your faith in Christ, because justification comes through faith alone.' I see no problem with this latter meaning ' in fact, such passages as Romans 10 seem fully reconcilable with it. But in a way I agree with Chris, in that the act of praying the sinner's prayer has, in many circles, usurped the place of that to which the sinner's prayer should give expression, namely vibrant faith, particularly in the matter of assurance of salvation. I remember countless times, growing up, when I doubted that I was truly God's child, and the preacher or counselor asked me, 'Do you remember praying for God to forgive you? Then you're saved ' don't doubt it.' This certainly makes the mere act of praying into something it was never intended to be, something that works 'ex opera operata' (to borrow the phrase from the baptismal regeneration debate). What the Catholics think that baptism as a mere action does, many Evangelicals think that the sinner's prayer as a mere action does. The Epistle of I John gives many more legitimate ways to discern if one is truly God's child, and none of them has to do with looking back to a past decision, but with discerning the legitimacy and vibrancy of present faith, the present orthodoxy of belief about Jesus, and so on. This is the way to make one's calling and election sure, but it is a way that people who teach that regeneration occurs on the basis of a 'decision' or 'sinner's prayer' cannot really employ.

Anyway, just some rambling thoughts. Perhaps, Chris, you could go to greater lengths to make clear that praying for forgiveness/grace is an appropriate, indeed necessary response to God's work of regeneration and gift of faith. But I think some of the others could think through, a little more fully, just what the moment of decision/prayer has come to represent in Evangelical circles, as the one work done by humans to meet God, and as the only decisive difference between those who, having heard the gospel, are saved, and those who remain lost, etc. In this distorted understanding of what a true prayer/plea even is, human volition takes the place of faith which looks outside of oneself, as the determining factor in salvation. So anyway, without discounting the legitimacy of crying out to Christ for mercy, we should also think about how to frame our appeal in a way not likely to be misunderstood, especially given the context of contemporary evangelicalism.

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  1. I agree with Nathan wholeheartedly. The way you were coming across, Chris, to me seemed as if you were jumping all over the prayer itself as not necessary and as if it should be disregarded. I think Nathan agreed with all of us in that the prayer most definitely has no saving power, but is important in our acknowledgement to God that we are sinners and we want forgiveness from our wicked ways. I know I am repetitive, but as I see it, the main problem here is a lack of explanation about what the prayer is and the salvation message itself (christians) and as a result of that a lack of undestanding (nonbelievers) about where the saving power is coming from.

  2. I too agree that Nathan has provided a more complete insight into the idea you were presenting. It seemed in your first article that you were suggesting that we simply present the gospel and then walk away without giving someone an opportunity to repond to recieve salvation through prayer. It also seemed that you were suggesting that there has never been a person who was saved by asking for forgiveness of their sins in repentance and trusting in Christ through prayer. That broad perception apparently was the driving force behind the strong criticism.

    Again, I agree that God alone is the agent who works out our salvation and it is from God alone from whom we receive our salvation. We do not all have conversion experiences though similar to Paul on the way to Damascus.

    I think your article was good in that it offers a realization for others that I struggled with for a long time. I often wondered if I was saved because I could not think of a specific time (day, minute, second) that I said a generic prayers and BAM, was saved. Without sounding to Christianese, it was almost a stumbling block for me because it seemed to be a universal experience for all believers until I met some people who I dearly respected as saints in the faith who also couldn't pinpoint a time and place "sinners prayer experience". Nathan provides a good point that the signs of faith given by scripture (specifically in 1 John) mention many points, none of which are remembering the time and moment you were regenerated.

    I suppose I would like you to explain something in clarification of this and the previous post. If sanctification is a gradual process being worked out "from one degree to another" (2. Cor. 3:18), can regeneration too be a gradual process. For Paul he was instantly regenerated with the literal opening of his eyes to the truth of Christ. Do you believe that it is possible for regeneration to be worked out from one degree to another so that a person become gradually more aware of the truth of the scriptures and comes to trust in Christ as a result of a continual, not instant, process?

    Also, finally, would you say a person can be saved without ever asking for forgiveness of their sins in repentance in a manner similar to the format of the sinners prayer (i.e. is repentance through prayer a necessity to receive salvation)? -psp

  3. In response to Perry's final paragraph...

    Much like baptism, the "sinner's prayer" should strictly be viewed as an outward expression of an inward change. To push that boundary is to begin taking salvation out of the hands of God and begin putting it in the hands of man. We must ask ourselves, is the work of salvation internal or external? Is it possible that we lean towards the necessity of certain words or actions on our part out of fear that God cannot ascertain the turning of our heart? Or could it be man's manipulative means of trying to put God in a position where we can demand his saving grace (thereby denying his sovereign right of unconditional election)?

    The "sinner's prayer" is an unneccessary component to salvation because salvation is a process not an event. Not only can someone have a gradual shift of allegiance, but they are better off in this case. Rather than having a paradigm in which they look back on their salvation as a particular moment when they received their golden ticket to heaven, they will look back to a time period in which God began to reveal himself to them and they underwent spiritual transformation. This naturally leaves them with a Phil 2:12 mindset of now being saved, to continue in that transformation process, working out of their salvation with fear and trembling.

  4. Thanks all for your comments. It's encouraging to know that there are people so passionate to clarify their stances on this issue.

    @Perry: I think regeneration could be seen as a process if you think of the outward call as a part of that, but I would stick to the definition that regeneration is an event. I don't think you necessarily have "ask" in definite way, but you should have a conscious knowledge of who Jesus is and what he accomplished.

    @Anna: I would say that salvation is both a process and an event. It is an event in that our justification is once-for-all, but is a process in that we go through the process of sanctification until glory.

  5. I agree with Chris in the matter of salvation. I was going to comment back, but didn't find the time.

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